Toyota Corolla RSi/RXi - With who do they compete?

Golfie · Post by **Golfie** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:07 am

Yoyo fellows, hope last nite didn't do to much damage to you guys?

Anyway, my question is against who does the corolla RSi/RXi compete(not the the runx or conquest), mkI,II,III,or IV.Reason why I ask is, last nite ,while myself and geemobee were coming back from church, a life stood behind me(I was driving my dad's corolla 160gl...2000 model and geemobee was in his CTi) and decided to take us both on.Needless to say, the life past me, came to a red robot and the CTi & life were standing neck in neck.Robot opened and away they flew, I REALLY tried to keep up with them but couldn't. Now I know I can't compare a rsi and 160 100% but the enjines displacements aren't so much different(I know the one is a 16v and the other one is a 20v).So what is its true competitor, provided that the cars are all standard...to me it seems a life will give it a hiding robot to robot and will battle on a long road considering that toyota's are low ratio's governed(gearbox)

I really smaak those cabby's but after my small calculation, I'd rather have Life

(excuse the obvious pun)

Golfie.

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:20 am

I know the one is a 16v and the other one is a 20v

I'm not sure what you are comparing here. The Life is a 1600 8V. The older RSI was a 1800 16V. Then they changed to a 1600 16V and then to a 1600 20V.

So what is its true competitor

My car when it was making 80Bhp on the wheels. :p

So what is its true competitor, provided that the cars are all standard...to me it seems a life will give it a hiding robot to robot and will battle on a long road considering that toyota's are low ratio's governed(gearbox)

I'm sory to say but the life will not be able to pull it off. Even the 1.8i polo can't. The RSI RXI are 1600 but they do have much newer technology, ITB's, 12 extra valves and rev about 2500rpm more than our 8V. You have to do a bit of work before your car can compete with them.

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:34 am

I must agree with Fush!!!!

Those guys with the RSi's & RXi's FLY!!!
The newer technology is far better than the Golf Life... thus the life will require quite a bit of tampering before it could stand a chance.

Post by **caddy** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 2:55 pm

Uhm, yes, they rev like a bee, however, my 8v revs to 7800-8000 no sweat, and i have yet come across a 20v Toy that could keep up! ???

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:42 pm

Uhm, yes, they rev like a bee, however, my 8v revs to 7800-8000 no sweat, and i have yet come across a 20v Toy that could keep up

Like I said they were fun to play with when I made 80 Bhp but now I do not even waste the petrol. But added your car is also slightly worked.

Post by **caddy** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 3:53 pm

Fush, do we know each other??
How do you know my caddy has been "slightly modded!" ???

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:05 pm

Fush, do we know each other??

Maybe. But I do not know everybody by BB name or by real name. Your name is J***n right. Is your car green or silver by any chance.

How do you know my caddy has been "slightly modded!"

my 8v revs to 7800-8000 no sweat

I think that is a pretty good clue.

GeeMobee · Post by **GeeMobee** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:26 pm

Ok guys the question is .. robot to robot between a RSI and RXI corolla...

i know they fast cars...

BTW... gave da life a hidin... :p

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:39 pm

Who's taking on the RSi? What against the RSi?

I drove a RSi... THEY FLY!!!!

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:41 pm

Ok guys the question is .. robot to robot between a RSI and RXI corolla...

i know they fast cars...

RSI and RXI are the same cars with the same motors and gearboxes. The RXI was just the one with extra luxuries and features. So from robot to robot they should be the same.

Comparing them with my car.

1st next to me.
2nd next to me. I might be slightly ahead.
3rd This is generaly where I look back and wave at them.

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:44 pm

I must say...

Comparing a standard 1.6 RSi to everything u've done 2ur car... thats quite impressive!

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:47 pm

...for the RSi that is...

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 4:55 pm

Comparing a standard 1.6 RSi to everything u've done 2ur car... thats quite impressive!

Nope it's not. I generaly make about 5KW more on the wheels than a RSI/RXI at the Dyno days, but big difference comes in with the torque. I make about 30N of torque extra. It is expected that I would be quicker than them.

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:13 pm

Fair... but look at all the mods u've got on ur car.

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:21 pm

U say 5 extra KW...

How do u calculate that?
U say 97BHP... that equates to 72.362KW

BHP = KW/0746

WiKKeD · Post by **WiKKeD** » Fri Jul 25, 2003 5:22 pm

Oops...

BHP = KW/0.746

Life1ZN · Post by **Life1ZN** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:54 am

Fush, I must agree that the RXi is faster off the the line. The reason for this is that it has more revs. Tried a Rxi and to 6500rpm we were head to head, then came more revs when i changed to 2(RXi still in 1), thats the only advantage as far as i am concerned. Overall is it a faster car, but I am sure with a few mods on the Life I would probably kill the RXi.

Just my thoughts, some may differ, who cares..........

Boesman · Post by **Boesman** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:02 am

been watching this for a while and was just wondering if you guys can remeber the first RSI box shape, now that was a work of art with some serious Kw for a 1600.

Life1ZN · Post by **Life1ZN** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:21 am

Boesman, was that the chisel front conquest. If thats what u r talking about, I must agree those cabs really have big power.

Boesman · Post by **Boesman** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 11:35 am

think they were made 86 - 88, some 97kw standard and reved 8000 i think long time ago but mass was under a ton 997kg. would love to get one of them again just to play with.

Ted · Post by **Ted** » Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:16 pm

Saw a rsi and rxi go head to head at ODI once. They were the same, next to each other,for long. then after awhile the rxi took the lead.

Thats mos because it has 6 gears?

ongerswp · Post by **ongerswp** » Sun Jul 27, 2003 10:45 pm

Hi guys i had a 1.8 8v cti Mk1 and i pulled a RSI RXI corolla from the start and i have a video to proof it. :O

Laser 1.6 96 kw
GTi Mk3 106 kw
CTi Mk1 116 kw

Lifes no fun in a straight line.

70-1035183680 · Post by **70-1035183680** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 8:45 am

U say 5 extra KW...

How do u calculate that?
U say 97BHP... that equates to 72.362KW

I did not say I calculated it. I saw it on the dyno readings. The last Dyno I was at I ran my car against 4 RSI/RXI. 2 Stock 1 with a chip and the last one the guy just spent R12 000 on the car and it was the first time he was running it on a dyno. The one Stock RSI was a bit week and smoking slightly. Only made 59Kw on the wheels. The second stock RSI/RXI made 67Kw The one with the chip made 70Kw I made 71Kw and the last guy was very disappointed with his reading of 76Kw considering he just spent R12 000.

Fair... but look at all the mods u've got on ur car.

I know my car has mods done to it and I'm comparing it to stock RSI and I do not want to start a pissing contest, but the people wanted to know what is the chances of a 1.6 golf and the RSI. I then merely told them what I had to do before I could say that my car is faster. a 1.6 golf will need even more work before they even stand the slightest chance.

People always want to say but the RSI is only a 1.6, but what they fail to recognise is the fact that it is Toyota's performance motor. The CC's might be 1.6 but there is a big difference between the normal 1.6 and the 1.6 RSI Toyota. It's the same as the Honda VTEC. There is a big difference between the 160I Honda and the VTEC that is also a 1.6.

Hein · Post by **Hein** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 9:28 am

Fush wrote:The one Stock RSI was a bit week and smoking slightly.

It seems they ALL smoke - I have yet to see one not smoking when they get given stick...

Loved too play with those when I still had my 2.0 16v Jetta. The drivers of those RSi's insisted on taking me on, and I made them look stupid every time...

They seem to think they can take on the Volvo as well... ???

200Cti · Post by **200Cti** » Mon Jul 28, 2003 10:30 am

Agree with Fush those Rsi's and Vtec's are worked from the factory -seen a cutaway of the rsi at the motor expo and it has branches worked cams those lobes are almost square sort of like a 288 cam -itb infact im sure that heads gasflowed as well -so when we work our golfs and get it slightly closer to the newer technology -its amazing that they do stand a chance -our golfs rule - ps how do you guys do against the new M3 ?? raced one yesterday from springs from 160-210 neck and neck his face was sour when this cheap little golf stood alongside him his four pipes steaming but did not help him pull away - we went four it twice but colud only get to about 210 due to traffic -must say im happy with my 2ltr conversion i never ever dropped to four just put foot cant wait for the engine to loosen up