Gearbox options
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Gearbox options
Hi all. I am looking for inputs regarding a gearbox swop. We are aiming to have 200wkw power with 380-420Nm so rod shifts wont do. We were thinking of 6speed cable shift boxes but possibilities are endless. All inputs will be appreciated.
F.Y.I doing a dual 3/4puk clutch for enjoyable driving.
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Re: Gearbox options
1.9 6speed box?
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Re: Gearbox options
Ran a 020 box with much more power than that for years.
Upgrade the diff rivits to bolts. Sorted.
Upgrade the diff rivits to bolts. Sorted.
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Re: Gearbox options
What panic said.panic-mechanic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:29 am Ran a 020 box with much more power than that for years.
Upgrade the diff rivits to bolts. Sorted.
Mine pushed 250kw+ on rodshift with only diff bolts changed although it was a 2Y and not FFZ or similar.
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Re: Gearbox options
2Y has the thicker main shaft where clutch plate fit.Donavan wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:09 pmWhat panic said.panic-mechanic wrote: ↑Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:29 am Ran a 020 box with much more power than that for years.
Upgrade the diff rivits to bolts. Sorted.
Mine pushed 250kw+ on rodshift with only diff bolts changed although it was a 2Y and not FFZ or similar.
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Re: Gearbox options
If you do need a cable shift setup though, I have everything you need.
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Re: Gearbox options
hi all. im new to the group . iv got a GTI 2,0 8valve that had a FFZ from a 1,4 !
im on the hunt for a 1,8 box , but everyone says i need a 6bolt clutch and mine is a 9bolt clutch .
what do i do ?
with the ffz box at about 140km my revs was like 5000rpm and my fuel bill was crazy .
what to do please HELP
im on the hunt for a 1,8 box , but everyone says i need a 6bolt clutch and mine is a 9bolt clutch .
what do i do ?
with the ffz box at about 140km my revs was like 5000rpm and my fuel bill was crazy .
what to do please HELP
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Re: Gearbox options
210 mm clutch, 9 bolt is the recommended one to use.
Are you sure it is a FFZ? Rev’s should be lower and around 3000 rpm depending on your wheel and tyre size.
Are you sure it is a FFZ? Rev’s should be lower and around 3000 rpm depending on your wheel and tyre size.
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Re: Gearbox options
FFZ box on my old car was around 3600rpm @120kmh
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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Re: Gearbox options
Ok, contact 8v performance and enquire how much the will charge for a 5th gear change out to give you a drop in rev’s in 5th gear. Might be cheaper than another gearbox.BernardSpike86 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:18 pmhi there yup its a FFZ 22055 is the code and its stamped 14 on it
Contact import guys, think Turbo Boys were selling over stocked ones for like R2500 second hand.
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. IV found a box from a Jetta 2 1,8 . And now they tell me I need to put a 6boly clutch coz mine is a 9bolt clutch and the size is different can this be a straight fit or not ?PapaJo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:35 pmOk, contact 8v performance and enquire how much the will charge for a 5th gear change out to give you a drop in rev’s in 5th gear. Might be cheaper than another gearbox.BernardSpike86 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:18 pmhi there yup its a FFZ 22055 is the code and its stamped 14 on it
Contact import guys, think Turbo Boys were selling over stocked ones for like R2500 second hand.
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The 9 bolt flywheel and clutch combo is 210mm which is what you want. It is a straight fitBernardSpike86 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:15 pm. IV found a box from a Jetta 2 1,8 . And now they tell me I need to put a 6boly clutch coz mine is a 9bolt clutch and the size is different can this be a straight fit or not ?PapaJo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:35 pmOk, contact 8v performance and enquire how much the will charge for a 5th gear change out to give you a drop in rev’s in 5th gear. Might be cheaper than another gearbox.BernardSpike86 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:18 pmhi there yup its a FFZ 22055 is the code and its stamped 14 on it
Contact import guys, think Turbo Boys were selling over stocked ones for like R2500 second hand.
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
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Re: Gearbox options
Hi all IV manage to get a vw gearbox from a 1,8 jumbo . With clutch. Let's hope that this will work . Thanks all for the advice
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Re: Gearbox options
No need to use the clutch as long as yours is in nice condition.BernardSpike86 wrote:
Hi all IV manage to get a vw gearbox from a 1,8 jumbo . With clutch. Let's hope that this will work . Thanks all for the advice
Swap the box, fill (or change) the oil, adjust the linkages, double check the driveshaft bolts (50Nm) and off you go.
I recommend new bolts for the drive shafts if you can.
Use normal Allen head bolts, take an old one to the bolt shop and match it for length, but make sure they are 12.9 tensile bolts ONLY. Anything less will break.
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Thank you so much for the help . I will be updating more when IV put the box in . Have you got a number I can WhatsApp or call you from if advice needed ?
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missioner wrote: ↑Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:44 pmNo need to use the clutch as long as yours is in nice condition.BernardSpike86 wrote:
Hi all IV manage to get a vw gearbox from a 1,8 jumbo . With clutch. Let's hope that this will work . Thanks all for the advice
Swap the box, fill (or change) the oil, adjust the linkages, double check the driveshaft bolts (50Nm) and off you go.
I recommend new bolts for the drive shafts if you can.
Use normal Allen head bolts, take an old one to the bolt shop and match it for length, but make sure they are 12.9 tensile bolts ONLY. Anything less will break.
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Now there is a small problem. i got a box for 2K like new !
so my drive shaft cups are bigger than the other ones on the box i got .
and there is codes i cant make out . 020301107H....4S11095......
and do you thing my cuos from my old box will fit into the other box i got ?
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Re: Gearbox options
Those cups can be swopped from one box to the other.
Not sure on that long code....google might be able to help however the 4S part might relate to the mk2 4S gearboxes that had a long 5th gear....check this gearbox code on brokevw
Not sure on that long code....google might be able to help however the 4S part might relate to the mk2 4S gearboxes that had a long 5th gear....check this gearbox code on brokevw
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Re: Gearbox options
If you swap the cups between the boxes then I will gladly buy the small ones from you. Need a set at the moment
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
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Re: Gearbox options
All 020 cups fit the 020 gearbox.
Go buy seal kits to get new cup seals and snap rings.
Drill a piece of square tube and get a 150x10mm bolt and a nut.
Remove the cup seal by puncturing it in the middle, place the drilled length of square tube over the driveshaft cup and thread the bolt into the diff through the square tube. The bolt needs to be a full length thread bolt. Tighten the nut down onto the steel tube to relieve the tension on the snap ring inside the cup. Remove the snap ring with an appropriate tool and slack off the nut.
Installing the cups is reverse of removal.
Go buy seal kits to get new cup seals and snap rings.
Drill a piece of square tube and get a 150x10mm bolt and a nut.
Remove the cup seal by puncturing it in the middle, place the drilled length of square tube over the driveshaft cup and thread the bolt into the diff through the square tube. The bolt needs to be a full length thread bolt. Tighten the nut down onto the steel tube to relieve the tension on the snap ring inside the cup. Remove the snap ring with an appropriate tool and slack off the nut.
Installing the cups is reverse of removal.
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Re: Gearbox options
That was a job and a half
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Evening all. IV got a GTI 1997 2,0 8valve MP9 std motor . IV got a problem that the OBDll won't let any scan tool or even the VAG into it . Can some one help me with advice ? . Yes I do have a aftermarket radio on it and I have done the basic checks on the plug for 5volts and ignition and 30main power.
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VAG 1551 diagnostic tool or the emulator for the aforementioned tool.BernardSpike86 wrote:Evening all. IV got a GTI 1997 2,0 8valve MP9 std motor . IV got a problem that the OBDll won't let any scan tool or even the VAG into it . Can some one help me with advice ? . Yes I do have a aftermarket radio on it and I have done the basic checks on the plug for 5volts and ignition and 30main power.
AFAIK nothing else works as it's not OBD2. Early OBD systems didn't have the universal access that was mandatory on OBD2 .
Hit up Mr Panic Mechanic in the forum advertisement section for more information
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