MKV GTI Issues
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MKV GTI Issues
Hi Guys
2007 BWA MKV GTI K04
I have the following issues I cannot seem to resolve, however the car runs fine in cold circumstances I noticed, but during the day when its generally hotter I get the issue where is sluggish to boost and only boost half of what it should. Scanned the car and the following came up :
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 002 - Control Range Not Reached
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 181767 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:00
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 4697 /min
Load: 67.8 %
Speed: 94.0 km/h
Temperature: 92.0°C
Temperature: 33.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 930.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V
012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation
P310B - 002 - Fuel Pressure Outside Specification - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 181768 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:03
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 6828 /min
Load: 71.7 %
Speed: 138.0 km/h
Temperature: 91.0°C
Temperature: 36.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 940.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.716 V
The following has been replaced / Checked :
DV - Rev H
Boost Leaks checked and fixed issues
Plugs (Brand New)
LPFP (Brand New)
Fuel Filter (Brand New)
Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated - Was thinking to check play on actuator arm, although last time checked it was perfect, with no play, maybe the vacuum line on the N75 ?
I noticed also there is a metalish noise when driving, sounds like something is loose, cant seem to find the place where, comes from Motor side, and after a hard launch or spirited driving, depressing clutch as if you want to stop, car dies. Have to restart again. Can notice on idle also that the Vacuum on the boost gauge drops from -19 to -20 and jumps the whole time, also noticeable when listening to the cars idle
Thanks
2007 BWA MKV GTI K04
I have the following issues I cannot seem to resolve, however the car runs fine in cold circumstances I noticed, but during the day when its generally hotter I get the issue where is sluggish to boost and only boost half of what it should. Scanned the car and the following came up :
000665 - Boost Pressure Regulation
P0299 - 002 - Control Range Not Reached
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 181767 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:00
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 4697 /min
Load: 67.8 %
Speed: 94.0 km/h
Temperature: 92.0°C
Temperature: 33.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 930.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V
012555 - Low Pressure Fuel regulation
P310B - 002 - Fuel Pressure Outside Specification - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 181768 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 17:12:03
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 6828 /min
Load: 71.7 %
Speed: 138.0 km/h
Temperature: 91.0°C
Temperature: 36.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 940.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.716 V
The following has been replaced / Checked :
DV - Rev H
Boost Leaks checked and fixed issues
Plugs (Brand New)
LPFP (Brand New)
Fuel Filter (Brand New)
Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated - Was thinking to check play on actuator arm, although last time checked it was perfect, with no play, maybe the vacuum line on the N75 ?
I noticed also there is a metalish noise when driving, sounds like something is loose, cant seem to find the place where, comes from Motor side, and after a hard launch or spirited driving, depressing clutch as if you want to stop, car dies. Have to restart again. Can notice on idle also that the Vacuum on the boost gauge drops from -19 to -20 and jumps the whole time, also noticeable when listening to the cars idle
Thanks
Current :
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Have you done HPFP?
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Sorry forgot to mention. Follower also checked, brand new HPFP with a brand new Autotech upgraded pin for higher fuel pressure to accommodate the mapping for the K04
Current :
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
but it tells you it's short on low pressure fuel. That will starve the HPFP. That clattery noise of course could be a nice little detonation but hard to guess on noises
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Not enough fuel = horrible boost.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Correct, but what else. Everything is basically brand new. Only happens in hot conditions though. On cold nights she runs perfect.panic-mechanic wrote:but it tells you it's short on low pressure fuel. That will starve the HPFP. That clattery noise of course could be a nice little detonation but hard to guess on noises
Noticed if I unplug the MAF sensor she doesnt idle that bad, still noticeable jumping a lil up and down but doesnt die when you come to a stop in hot conditions after a hard drive.
I dont know what else it can be anymore since basically everything has been checked and in most cases replaced and brand new
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
You know that there is a PWM controller thatbruns the rear pump? They also get dodgy with time.
Don't guess at these things. Pull logs or look at the low pressure fuel delivery. It displays it for you in vcds. At WOT you must still have over 5 bar.
Don't guess at these things. Pull logs or look at the low pressure fuel delivery. It displays it for you in vcds. At WOT you must still have over 5 bar.
Stephan van Tonder - Jhb - Putfontein Benoni
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Thanks Panic. Will pull logs again. I see on idle it sits at 4bar. Will pull logs and run until red line in 3rd to pull proper log and analyze from there.panic-mechanic wrote:You know that there is a PWM controller thatbruns the rear pump? They also get dodgy with time.
Don't guess at these things. Pull logs or look at the low pressure fuel delivery. It displays it for you in vcds. At WOT you must still have over 5 bar.
Although with previous log it ran a diffrence of 12 bar at some stages on the HPFP. Will do a proper log tonight and see where we at.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
The fact that the hpfp is lagging most likely means lpfp is not enough. Is the filter on the lp side 6 bar?
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Yes 6.6 bar fuel filter. Tested with OEM pump amd a brand new pump from Goldwagen. Both the same issue. I put back the OEM pump.panic-mechanic wrote:The fact that the hpfp is lagging most likely means lpfp is not enough. Is the filter on the lp side 6 bar?
Would the PMB cause an issue in hot conditions where it gets too hot ?
As said we had a few runs at 22h00 at night about 16 or 18 degrees outside temps and car ran fine and better than ever 4 runs in a row.
Next day outside temps 25 to 30 after a short drive issue immediatly started. No power, as if it doesnt get enough fuel, dies when returning to idle at some stop signs.
Will run logs and compare.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
You want to log
Hp actual
Hp requested
Boost actual
Boost requested
N75 duty cycle
LP actual
Hp actual
Hp requested
Boost actual
Boost requested
N75 duty cycle
LP actual
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Log 103 106 and 115.
Depending on who mapped car the low boost error will come up but not affect the car as most tunners ask for 2500 mmbar from 1800 rpm so error is present but does not affect car. What hpfp do you have in and what injectors?
Depending on who mapped car the low boost error will come up but not affect the car as most tunners ask for 2500 mmbar from 1800 rpm so error is present but does not affect car. What hpfp do you have in and what injectors?
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Indeed. Will log tonight quicklyg60 golf wrote:Log 103 106 and 115.
Depending on who mapped car the low boost error will come up but not affect the car as most tunners ask for 2500 mmbar from 1800 rpm so error is present but does not affect car. What hpfp do you have in and what injectors?
S3 Injectors and Pierburg HPFP with Autotech upgraded Internals.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Have a look at the logs see whats the fuel pressures and see the boost pressure.
From the logs you will see if its rear and front that drop or just front with a constant rear pressure.
From the logs you will see if its rear and front that drop or just front with a constant rear pressure.
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WHAT WE LEAVE BEHIND IS NOT AS IMPORTANT AS HOW WE LIVED.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Thanks guys. Will post logs tonight as soon as I have themg60 golf wrote:Have a look at the logs see whats the fuel pressures and see the boost pressure.
From the logs you will see if its rear and front that drop or just front with a constant rear pressure.
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Hi Guys
Managed to pull some logs, to me the boost pressure looks fairly on point, no major difference, might be due to the drop in fuel pressure. I see the fuel pressure dropping as low as 2.7 bar on high rpm, once off the throttle it catches up again to 5 / 6 odd bar. Seems like it doesn't delivery the fuel when it should. Dont know how to attach logs, here is a screenshot
Fuel logs:
Groups 106 ; 103 ; 230
Group A: '103 Group B: '106 Group C: '230
Current Fuel Pressure Adaptation Value Demand controlled Fuel Rail Electrical Electrical Time Rail Pressure Rail Pressure Rail Pressure
TIME Fuel Pressure Regulator elect. Fuel Pump Fuel Pump Adapt. TIME Pressure Fuel Pump 1 Fuel Pump 2 TIME (specified) (actual) Difference
STAMP bar STAMP bar % s STAMP bar bar bar
0.38 4.02 -172 653 Test OFF 0.11 51.23 42.4 655.35 0.23 50 50.77 -0.77
0.74 3.98 -170 653 Test OFF 0.49 48.26 45.1 655.35 0.62 50 48.11 1.89
1.14 3.99 -162 653 Test OFF 0.89 51.67 45.5 655.35 1.01 50 50.76 -0.77
1.54 3.94 -159 653 Test OFF 1.26 45.29 45.1 655.35 1.41 50 48.66 1.34
1.94 3.81 -78 653 Test OFF 1.69 48.21 46.7 655.35 1.79 50 52.09 -2.1
2.34 3.95 1 653 Test OFF 2.08 60.27 50.6 655.35 2.21 50 56.82 -6.83
2.74 4.22 -42 653 Test OFF 2.48 49.94 45.1 655.35 2.61 50 49.9 0.09
3.14 4.29 -152 653 Test OFF 2.88 50.05 40.4 655.35 3.01 50 48.36 1.63
3.56 4.19 -267 653 Test OFF 3.28 43.98 38.8 655.35 3.41 50.03 46.35 3.68
3.94 3.88 -275 653 Test OFF 3.68 52.42 40.8 655.35 3.81 52.1 51.84 0.25
4.34 3.62 -106 653 Test OFF 4.1 54.03 47.5 655.35 4.21 54.45 54.34 0.11
4.74 3.77 86 653 Test OFF 4.47 55.31 52.5 655.35 4.62 56.53 56.49 0.04
5.15 3.98 151 653 Test OFF 4.88 58.48 50.2 655.35 4.99 58.9 59.16 -0.27
5.54 3.98 156 653 Test OFF 5.28 60.71 48.6 655.35 5.41 61.84 62.23 -0.4
5.95 3.98 166 653 Test OFF 5.68 63.6 49.8 655.35 5.81 63.8 64.54 -0.74
6.35 4.02 164 653 Test OFF 6.09 63.75 47.8 655.35 6.21 62.36 62.81 -0.45
6.73 4.02 153 653 Test OFF 6.47 61.41 47.5 655.35 6.6 61.55 60.11 1.44
7.11 3.97 153 653 Test OFF 6.87 59.59 47.1 655.35 6.98 60.56 58.42 2.14
7.51 3.94 183 653 Test OFF 7.26 59.65 48.6 655.35 7.4 59.11 58.19 0.92
7.91 3.95 215 653 Test OFF 7.64 58.96 49.4 655.35 7.8 58.4 58.87 -0.47
8.32 4 229 653 Test OFF 8.05 59.33 50.6 655.35 8.17 59.2 59.64 -0.44
8.7 4.01 225 653 Test OFF 8.44 60.81 49.4 655.35 8.58 60.76 61.24 -0.48
123.38 4.05 259 653 Test OFF 123.09 80.16 53.3 655.35 123.23 81.67 82.55 -0.89
123.76 4.09 230 653 Test OFF 123.49 87.89 52.5 655.35 123.63 87.98 88.76 -0.78
124.18 4.06 194 653 Test OFF 123.91 88.62 51.4 655.35 124.04 90.13 89.76 0.37
124.58 4.05 169 653 Test OFF 124.29 92.47 52.9 655.35 124.44 94.26 93.66 0.6
124.98 4.01 162 653 Test OFF 124.71 101.09 55.3 655.35 124.84 103.76 105.18 -1.42
125.38 4.03 152 653 Test OFF 125.11 110.44 56.5 655.35 125.24 112.68 114.51 -1.83
125.76 4.05 138 653 Test OFF 125.51 117.95 59.2 655.35 125.64 120.27 119.93 0.34
126.16 4.31 69 653 Test OFF 125.89 122.9 70.2 655.35 126.03 125.06 120.58 4.48
126.56 4.8 -152 653 Test OFF 126.28 122.37 81.2 655.35 126.41 126.52 121.42 5.1
126.94 4.64 -442 653 Test OFF 126.69 121.25 75.3 655.35 126.81 128.05 120.4 7.65
127.36 4.21 -615 653 Test OFF 127.1 120.18 78.4 655.35 127.22 130.01 120.61 9.39
127.74 3.94 -634 653 Test OFF 127.48 121.89 83.1 655.35 127.62 132.09 123.36 8.73
128.14 3.85 -563 653 Test OFF 127.88 123.56 88.6 655.35 128 134.28 124.73 9.55
128.51 3.86 -492 653 Test OFF 128.26 125.71 89.4 655.35 128.4 134.9 126.5 8.39
128.91 3.8 -404 653 Test OFF 128.66 127.61 91.8 655.35 128.78 134.98 126.63 8.35
129.31 3.66 -266 653 Test OFF 129.04 124.83 91.8 655.35 129.19 134.99 125.96 9.03
129.73 3.48 -22 653 Test OFF 129.44 127.12 91.8 655.35 129.58 134.99 127.83 7.16
130.11 3.31 269 653 Test OFF 129.86 129 91.8 655.35 129.98 134.99 127.19 7.8
130.51 3.12 671 653 Test OFF 130.26 128.15 91.8 655.35 130.4 134.99 127.08 7.91
130.91 2.96 1163 653 Test OFF 130.64 128.25 91.8 655.35 130.78 134.99 127.68 7.31
131.31 2.85 1719 653 Test OFF 131.04 128.27 91.8 655.35 131.17 134.99 128.13 6.86
131.69 2.76 2255 653 Test OFF 131.45 127.46 91.8 655.35 131.58 134.99 128.44 6.55
132.09 2.65 2877 653 Test OFF 131.84 126.37 91.8 655.35 131.97 134.99 127.01 7.98
132.49 2.56 3551 653 Test OFF 132.23 127.21 91.8 655.35 132.38 134.99 127.35 7.64
132.91 2.49 4000 653 Test OFF 132.63 127.07 91.8 655.35 132.77 134.99 127.68 7.31
133.3 3.17 4000 653 Test OFF 133.05 128.32 74.9 655.35 133.17 128.13 128.13 0
133.7 4.43 4000 653 Test OFF 133.44 123.27 74.9 655.35 133.58 121.21 121.21 0
134.11 5.36 4000 653 Test OFF 133.83 119.86 74.5 655.35 133.98 119.23 119.23 0
Difficult to see, but forgot to log RPM as well. This was a pull in 3rd gear. Log was started at around 2000rpm and ended at rev limit
Managed to pull some logs, to me the boost pressure looks fairly on point, no major difference, might be due to the drop in fuel pressure. I see the fuel pressure dropping as low as 2.7 bar on high rpm, once off the throttle it catches up again to 5 / 6 odd bar. Seems like it doesn't delivery the fuel when it should. Dont know how to attach logs, here is a screenshot
Fuel logs:
Groups 106 ; 103 ; 230
Group A: '103 Group B: '106 Group C: '230
Current Fuel Pressure Adaptation Value Demand controlled Fuel Rail Electrical Electrical Time Rail Pressure Rail Pressure Rail Pressure
TIME Fuel Pressure Regulator elect. Fuel Pump Fuel Pump Adapt. TIME Pressure Fuel Pump 1 Fuel Pump 2 TIME (specified) (actual) Difference
STAMP bar STAMP bar % s STAMP bar bar bar
0.38 4.02 -172 653 Test OFF 0.11 51.23 42.4 655.35 0.23 50 50.77 -0.77
0.74 3.98 -170 653 Test OFF 0.49 48.26 45.1 655.35 0.62 50 48.11 1.89
1.14 3.99 -162 653 Test OFF 0.89 51.67 45.5 655.35 1.01 50 50.76 -0.77
1.54 3.94 -159 653 Test OFF 1.26 45.29 45.1 655.35 1.41 50 48.66 1.34
1.94 3.81 -78 653 Test OFF 1.69 48.21 46.7 655.35 1.79 50 52.09 -2.1
2.34 3.95 1 653 Test OFF 2.08 60.27 50.6 655.35 2.21 50 56.82 -6.83
2.74 4.22 -42 653 Test OFF 2.48 49.94 45.1 655.35 2.61 50 49.9 0.09
3.14 4.29 -152 653 Test OFF 2.88 50.05 40.4 655.35 3.01 50 48.36 1.63
3.56 4.19 -267 653 Test OFF 3.28 43.98 38.8 655.35 3.41 50.03 46.35 3.68
3.94 3.88 -275 653 Test OFF 3.68 52.42 40.8 655.35 3.81 52.1 51.84 0.25
4.34 3.62 -106 653 Test OFF 4.1 54.03 47.5 655.35 4.21 54.45 54.34 0.11
4.74 3.77 86 653 Test OFF 4.47 55.31 52.5 655.35 4.62 56.53 56.49 0.04
5.15 3.98 151 653 Test OFF 4.88 58.48 50.2 655.35 4.99 58.9 59.16 -0.27
5.54 3.98 156 653 Test OFF 5.28 60.71 48.6 655.35 5.41 61.84 62.23 -0.4
5.95 3.98 166 653 Test OFF 5.68 63.6 49.8 655.35 5.81 63.8 64.54 -0.74
6.35 4.02 164 653 Test OFF 6.09 63.75 47.8 655.35 6.21 62.36 62.81 -0.45
6.73 4.02 153 653 Test OFF 6.47 61.41 47.5 655.35 6.6 61.55 60.11 1.44
7.11 3.97 153 653 Test OFF 6.87 59.59 47.1 655.35 6.98 60.56 58.42 2.14
7.51 3.94 183 653 Test OFF 7.26 59.65 48.6 655.35 7.4 59.11 58.19 0.92
7.91 3.95 215 653 Test OFF 7.64 58.96 49.4 655.35 7.8 58.4 58.87 -0.47
8.32 4 229 653 Test OFF 8.05 59.33 50.6 655.35 8.17 59.2 59.64 -0.44
8.7 4.01 225 653 Test OFF 8.44 60.81 49.4 655.35 8.58 60.76 61.24 -0.48
123.38 4.05 259 653 Test OFF 123.09 80.16 53.3 655.35 123.23 81.67 82.55 -0.89
123.76 4.09 230 653 Test OFF 123.49 87.89 52.5 655.35 123.63 87.98 88.76 -0.78
124.18 4.06 194 653 Test OFF 123.91 88.62 51.4 655.35 124.04 90.13 89.76 0.37
124.58 4.05 169 653 Test OFF 124.29 92.47 52.9 655.35 124.44 94.26 93.66 0.6
124.98 4.01 162 653 Test OFF 124.71 101.09 55.3 655.35 124.84 103.76 105.18 -1.42
125.38 4.03 152 653 Test OFF 125.11 110.44 56.5 655.35 125.24 112.68 114.51 -1.83
125.76 4.05 138 653 Test OFF 125.51 117.95 59.2 655.35 125.64 120.27 119.93 0.34
126.16 4.31 69 653 Test OFF 125.89 122.9 70.2 655.35 126.03 125.06 120.58 4.48
126.56 4.8 -152 653 Test OFF 126.28 122.37 81.2 655.35 126.41 126.52 121.42 5.1
126.94 4.64 -442 653 Test OFF 126.69 121.25 75.3 655.35 126.81 128.05 120.4 7.65
127.36 4.21 -615 653 Test OFF 127.1 120.18 78.4 655.35 127.22 130.01 120.61 9.39
127.74 3.94 -634 653 Test OFF 127.48 121.89 83.1 655.35 127.62 132.09 123.36 8.73
128.14 3.85 -563 653 Test OFF 127.88 123.56 88.6 655.35 128 134.28 124.73 9.55
128.51 3.86 -492 653 Test OFF 128.26 125.71 89.4 655.35 128.4 134.9 126.5 8.39
128.91 3.8 -404 653 Test OFF 128.66 127.61 91.8 655.35 128.78 134.98 126.63 8.35
129.31 3.66 -266 653 Test OFF 129.04 124.83 91.8 655.35 129.19 134.99 125.96 9.03
129.73 3.48 -22 653 Test OFF 129.44 127.12 91.8 655.35 129.58 134.99 127.83 7.16
130.11 3.31 269 653 Test OFF 129.86 129 91.8 655.35 129.98 134.99 127.19 7.8
130.51 3.12 671 653 Test OFF 130.26 128.15 91.8 655.35 130.4 134.99 127.08 7.91
130.91 2.96 1163 653 Test OFF 130.64 128.25 91.8 655.35 130.78 134.99 127.68 7.31
131.31 2.85 1719 653 Test OFF 131.04 128.27 91.8 655.35 131.17 134.99 128.13 6.86
131.69 2.76 2255 653 Test OFF 131.45 127.46 91.8 655.35 131.58 134.99 128.44 6.55
132.09 2.65 2877 653 Test OFF 131.84 126.37 91.8 655.35 131.97 134.99 127.01 7.98
132.49 2.56 3551 653 Test OFF 132.23 127.21 91.8 655.35 132.38 134.99 127.35 7.64
132.91 2.49 4000 653 Test OFF 132.63 127.07 91.8 655.35 132.77 134.99 127.68 7.31
133.3 3.17 4000 653 Test OFF 133.05 128.32 74.9 655.35 133.17 128.13 128.13 0
133.7 4.43 4000 653 Test OFF 133.44 123.27 74.9 655.35 133.58 121.21 121.21 0
134.11 5.36 4000 653 Test OFF 133.83 119.86 74.5 655.35 133.98 119.23 119.23 0
Difficult to see, but forgot to log RPM as well. This was a pull in 3rd gear. Log was started at around 2000rpm and ended at rev limit
Current :
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
- Jacques1397
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Here was the boost logs :
Groups 118 ; 115 ; 231
Also ran in 3rd gear. Started and stopped log in 3rd gear. RPM added
Group A: '118 Group B: '231 Group C: '115
Engine Speed Intake Air Wastegate (N75) Boost Pressure Pressure Pressure Load Engine Speed Engine Load Boost Pressure Boost Pressure
TIME Temperature Duty Cycle (actual) TIME TIME (specified) (actual)
STAMP /min °C % mbar STAMP bar bar % STAMP /min % mbar mbar
0.19 2920 21 0.8 1420 0.01 4.59 4.35 60.4 0.05 2880 78.2 1050 1390
0.59 3040 21 0.8 1470 0.32 4.59 4.46 60.8 0.46 3000 78.2 1040 1450
0.99 3160 21 94.9 1540 0.72 4.59 4.53 60.8 0.86 3120 93.2 1870 1470
1.39 3320 21 94.9 2070 1.11 4.59 4.48 68.6 1.24 3280 133.1 2550 1840
1.77 3600 22 65.1 2550 1.52 4.59 4.52 91.8 1.64 3480 183.5 2540 2460
2.19 3840 23 67.5 2580 1.93 4.58 4.87 91.8 2.06 3800 191.7 2540 2580
2.57 4160 24 67.5 2580 2.31 4.58 4.98 91.8 2.46 4040 191.7 2540 2580
2.97 4440 24 67.8 2580 2.71 4.58 4.84 91.8 2.82 4320 191.7 2540 2580
3.37 4720 24 68.2 2550 3.11 4.58 4.55 91.8 3.24 4600 191.7 2540 2560
3.77 4960 25 69.8 2520 3.51 4.58 4.23 91.8 3.64 4880 191.7 2540 2530
4.17 5200 25 72.2 2480 3.91 4.58 3.95 91.8 4.04 5120 191.7 2540 2500
4.56 5440 26 77.3 2430 4.29 4.58 3.69 91.8 4.42 5360 191.7 2540 2450
4.94 5640 26 84.7 2360 4.7 4.58 3.4 91.8 4.81 5560 188 2520 2380
5.34 5840 27 88.2 2320 5.09 4.58 3.15 91.8 5.23 5760 184.2 2490 2330
5.76 6040 27 94.9 2260 5.48 4.58 2.95 91.8 5.63 6000 178.2 2470 2280
6.16 6240 27 94.9 2200 5.9 4.58 2.81 91.8 6.01 6200 175.2 2460 2220
6.54 6440 27 94.9 2150 6.3 4.58 2.68 91.8 6.42 6400 169.9 2460 2180
6.94 6600 28 94.9 2130 6.69 4.58 2.55 91.8 6.81 6520 165.4 2450 2150
7.34 6240 28 0 2160 7.07 4.57 2.45 91.8 7.23 6680 158.6 1030 2270
7.76 6080 27 94.9 1150 7.47 4.57 3.09 74.9 7.61 5760 16.5 590 1380
8.14 5040 27 94.9 2280 7.89 4.57 3.85 91.8 8.01 5080 150.4 2550 2000
8.54 5160 27 84.7 2490 8.29 4.57 4.11 91.8 8.42 5120 191.7 2540 2480
8.94 5240 28 84.7 2490 8.68 4.57 3.95 91.8 8.81 5200 191.7 2540 2490
9.34 5360 29 85.1 2470 9.07 4.57 3.71 91.8 9.21 5320 191.7 2540 2490
9.74 5440 30 85.1 2450 9.48 4.57 3.4 91.8 9.61 5440 189.5 2540 2460
10.14 5560 30 86.3 2420 9.89 4.57 3.12 91.8 10.01 5520 189.5 2540 2430
Groups 118 ; 115 ; 231
Also ran in 3rd gear. Started and stopped log in 3rd gear. RPM added
Group A: '118 Group B: '231 Group C: '115
Engine Speed Intake Air Wastegate (N75) Boost Pressure Pressure Pressure Load Engine Speed Engine Load Boost Pressure Boost Pressure
TIME Temperature Duty Cycle (actual) TIME TIME (specified) (actual)
STAMP /min °C % mbar STAMP bar bar % STAMP /min % mbar mbar
0.19 2920 21 0.8 1420 0.01 4.59 4.35 60.4 0.05 2880 78.2 1050 1390
0.59 3040 21 0.8 1470 0.32 4.59 4.46 60.8 0.46 3000 78.2 1040 1450
0.99 3160 21 94.9 1540 0.72 4.59 4.53 60.8 0.86 3120 93.2 1870 1470
1.39 3320 21 94.9 2070 1.11 4.59 4.48 68.6 1.24 3280 133.1 2550 1840
1.77 3600 22 65.1 2550 1.52 4.59 4.52 91.8 1.64 3480 183.5 2540 2460
2.19 3840 23 67.5 2580 1.93 4.58 4.87 91.8 2.06 3800 191.7 2540 2580
2.57 4160 24 67.5 2580 2.31 4.58 4.98 91.8 2.46 4040 191.7 2540 2580
2.97 4440 24 67.8 2580 2.71 4.58 4.84 91.8 2.82 4320 191.7 2540 2580
3.37 4720 24 68.2 2550 3.11 4.58 4.55 91.8 3.24 4600 191.7 2540 2560
3.77 4960 25 69.8 2520 3.51 4.58 4.23 91.8 3.64 4880 191.7 2540 2530
4.17 5200 25 72.2 2480 3.91 4.58 3.95 91.8 4.04 5120 191.7 2540 2500
4.56 5440 26 77.3 2430 4.29 4.58 3.69 91.8 4.42 5360 191.7 2540 2450
4.94 5640 26 84.7 2360 4.7 4.58 3.4 91.8 4.81 5560 188 2520 2380
5.34 5840 27 88.2 2320 5.09 4.58 3.15 91.8 5.23 5760 184.2 2490 2330
5.76 6040 27 94.9 2260 5.48 4.58 2.95 91.8 5.63 6000 178.2 2470 2280
6.16 6240 27 94.9 2200 5.9 4.58 2.81 91.8 6.01 6200 175.2 2460 2220
6.54 6440 27 94.9 2150 6.3 4.58 2.68 91.8 6.42 6400 169.9 2460 2180
6.94 6600 28 94.9 2130 6.69 4.58 2.55 91.8 6.81 6520 165.4 2450 2150
7.34 6240 28 0 2160 7.07 4.57 2.45 91.8 7.23 6680 158.6 1030 2270
7.76 6080 27 94.9 1150 7.47 4.57 3.09 74.9 7.61 5760 16.5 590 1380
8.14 5040 27 94.9 2280 7.89 4.57 3.85 91.8 8.01 5080 150.4 2550 2000
8.54 5160 27 84.7 2490 8.29 4.57 4.11 91.8 8.42 5120 191.7 2540 2480
8.94 5240 28 84.7 2490 8.68 4.57 3.95 91.8 8.81 5200 191.7 2540 2490
9.34 5360 29 85.1 2470 9.07 4.57 3.71 91.8 9.21 5320 191.7 2540 2490
9.74 5440 30 85.1 2450 9.48 4.57 3.4 91.8 9.61 5440 189.5 2540 2460
10.14 5560 30 86.3 2420 9.89 4.57 3.12 91.8 10.01 5520 189.5 2540 2430
Current :
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
- panic-mechanic
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Low pressure fuel is going away - so despite the fact that you say you changed the pump you are losing it.
So either your map is way too aggressive and is asking for more than it can supply or the pump is too iffy and you need an upgrade or the PWM controller is kaput.
So either your map is way too aggressive and is asking for more than it can supply or the pump is too iffy and you need an upgrade or the PWM controller is kaput.
Stephan van Tonder - Jhb - Putfontein Benoni
'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
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'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
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'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
'09 Touareg 3l TDI
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
'05 Touareg v10
Perfect Power dealer. I do dyno tuning.
- Jacques1397
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- Car Model: Citi Rox 1.4i & Golf 5 GTI
- Membership No: 1970
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Re: MKV GTI Issues
Might be thinking the same thing. It has this issue with the brand new low pressure fuel pump and the OEM one. Weird indeed.panic-mechanic wrote:Low pressure fuel is going away - so despite the fact that you say you changed the pump you are losing it.
So either your map is way too aggressive and is asking for more than it can supply or the pump is too iffy and you need an upgrade or the PWM controller is kaput.
Whats the ods the low pressure fuel sensor screwing around? Might need to get a working PMB amd test that aswell
Logs sent to the Tuner lets see what he also says
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Current :
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2
2007 Golf 5 GTI
2008 Citi Rox 1.4i - Daily
Ex :
2009 Polo 1.8t GTI Stage 2