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1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
Ok so I finally got the 2.0 motor in my citi sport used the 1.4i intake manifold and transferred the internals from the 1.4 dizzy to the AGG dizzy but car won't idle will mapping the standard ecu fix the problem ??????
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
Are you still using the 1.4i ecu? Also by internals do you mean the entire barrel with 4 window pickup?
You can't use the 1.4i ecu unfortunately
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
Yes I'm still using the same ecu so what's the best way forward ???remap with 2.0l map or management an yes I'm using the 4 window barrel
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
If a remap will work where can take it I live in PTA
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
The car will run dangerously lean if you leave it on the 1.4i ecu unfortunately. I'm not sure who can do the remapping that side.
The go to guy this side is a guy called Allen (in cpt) and he sells the 2.0 polocup ecu which you then combine with uniq chip piggyback.
So either you need the 2.0 remapped ecu and piggyback or go aftermarket management. Both carry similar costs.
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The go to guy this side is a guy called Allen (in cpt) and he sells the 2.0 polocup ecu which you then combine with uniq chip piggyback.
So either you need the 2.0 remapped ecu and piggyback or go aftermarket management. Both carry similar costs.
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
full aftermarket just allows for more adjustments, sensors and potential for further
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Thanks guys coz it would try to hold the idle but then dies,so after market it is then spitronics is cheap is it any good or go for dicktator ????
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
The management will be as good as the tuner. So ask your tuner what he's more comfortable with...and then get that...WolfsbergMK1 wrote:Thanks guys coz it would try to hold the idle but then dies,so after market it is then spitronics is cheap is it any good or go for dicktator ????
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
I'm running a spitronics venus intermediate kit, and I have had no hassles with it at all, I installed it by myself and it started up first time. I did take it to be tuned to allow the engine to run in, as I didn't want it running too lean or too rich when the engine needs a consistent fuel supply to be run in properly.WolfsbergMK1 wrote:Thanks guys coz it would try to hold the idle but then dies,so after market it is then spitronics is cheap is it any good or go for dicktator ????
But if you're going to be running it on an engine that hasn't been rebuilt and you're willing to go through the manual thoroughly, it's very possible to set it up yourself provided you use a lambda sensor, the startup map is pretty spot on. Also you will learn a ton as it provides a lot of theory that allows you and encourages you to try your hand at some butt dyno tuning.
As you're running an AGG, I would suggest going 60-2 for the ignition and injection timing, and then reassembling the standard bosch dizzy, fewer hassles. Do some googling and find out if there are any tuners in your area that are willing to tune the spitronics unit.
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
As a temporary solution you can unplug the MAP sensor (the one on top of your intake manifold held in place with two allenkey bolts). Tootling around will be fine on the 1.4i map, but you'll run lean and that's not ideal.
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
CPi or FRC can chip your current ECU or you can run a UNiQ chip on your current ECU...
The polocup ECU is meant for a 2.0 8v motor with a 288 cam or bigger... & No...CCBB wrote: The go to guy this side is a guy called Allen (in cpt) and he sells the 2.0 polocup ecu which you then combine with uniq chip piggyback.
So either you need the 2.0 remapped ecu and piggyback or go aftermarket management. Both carry similar costs
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
Indeed, which is why it's combined with the uniQ chip to stop it from overfueling.Naku786 wrote:CPi or FRC can chip your current ECU or you can run a UNiQ chip on your current ECU...
The polocup ECU is meant for a 2.0 8v motor with a 288 cam or bigger... & No...CCBB wrote: The go to guy this side is a guy called Allen (in cpt) and he sells the 2.0 polocup ecu which you then combine with uniq chip piggyback.
So either you need the 2.0 remapped ecu and piggyback or go aftermarket management. Both carry similar costs
Depending on which options you choose, the costs can end up being similar yes:
Based on a specific example:
1. Polocup + Uniq (+-)
- Polocup ECU (without trading in): R 1500.00
- UniQ R1500.00
- Tuning R1600 and installation
R 4 200.00
2. AFM (again a specific, basic example)(+-)
- ECU (standard dizzy pickup) : R 1800.00
- Installation and tuning: R 2000.00
R 3 800.00 (not including sundries, new dizzy etc)
Obv if you want to run wasted spark/MSD and fully sequential fueling, you're going to pay more for the ECU and associated parts, 60-2, lambda, coils etc.
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
Why would you need uniQ & a polocup ecu? like I said the polocup ECU is for a specific tune, if he wants to stay mp9 get the ecu chipped, will cost 1500-2000 depending on tuning house... or UniQ on its own, again another 2k. The only reason why anyone will buy a polocup ecu & uniq is to detune the polocup ecu so it doesn't overfuel will smaller duration cams.CCBB wrote:Indeed, which is why it's combined with the uniQ chip to stop it from overfueling.Naku786 wrote:CPi or FRC can chip your current ECU or you can run a UNiQ chip on your current ECU...
The polocup ECU is meant for a 2.0 8v motor with a 288 cam or bigger... & No...CCBB wrote: The go to guy this side is a guy called Allen (in cpt) and he sells the 2.0 polocup ecu which you then combine with uniq chip piggyback.
So either you need the 2.0 remapped ecu and piggyback or go aftermarket management. Both carry similar costs
Depending on which options you choose, the costs can end up being similar yes:
Based on a specific example:
1. Polocup + Uniq (+-)
- Polocup ECU (without trading in): R 1500.00
- UniQ R1500.00
- Tuning R1600 and installation
R 4 200.00
2. AFM (again a specific, basic example)(+-)
- ECU (standard dizzy pickup) : R 1800.00
- Installation and tuning: R 2000.00
R 3 800.00 (not including sundries, new dizzy etc)
Obv if you want to run wasted spark/MSD and fully sequential fueling, you're going to pay more for the ECU and associated parts, 60-2, lambda, coils etc.
The question that needs to be answered by the OP is whether he plans to stay with a 2.0 8v or go bigger in the future... if the later I will recommend AFM...
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Re: 1.4 to 2.0 8v AGG
I paid R350 to have my 1.4i ECU mapped with a 2.0 file. But yeah AFM system will be good if he wants to modify it later on.
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Ok so I had to go dictator because apparently I don't have MP9 computer box,I have MPi computer box,MPi was in stall in the late 2008 and 2009 models and it can not be chip or remapped so I gave my tuner the go ahead to install dictator one time so fingers cross there's no more hick ups
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MPi is crap yes, Dictator is great
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I just have to thank 8V PERFORMANCE for doing the install and tuning you guys done a great job just love how my car is pulling
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Saw the car there by Sarel and wondered if it was the one mentioned in this thread...WolfsbergMK1 wrote:I just have to thank 8V PERFORMANCE for doing the install and tuning you guys done a great job just love how my car is pulling
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Yes it was the blue golf those guys really do great work
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Hi there. Was at a guy called Rod in Randburg somewhere.
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