To 10ppm or not?
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To 10ppm or not?
Hi Guys. I have been reading up on this topic, but I can't find a real answer.
I have a Polo ASZ PD 1.9TDI. I have thus far only used 50ppm in my car, and never 500ppm. My friend has a Hilux 3.0D4D and swears by Shell 500ppm. He reckons less ppm than 500 does not contain enough smearing. Now, I get that. But, my Ford Ranger (Company car) has been running solely on Sasol 10ppm since brand new. My consump is good, performance is good, hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
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I have a Polo ASZ PD 1.9TDI. I have thus far only used 50ppm in my car, and never 500ppm. My friend has a Hilux 3.0D4D and swears by Shell 500ppm. He reckons less ppm than 500 does not contain enough smearing. Now, I get that. But, my Ford Ranger (Company car) has been running solely on Sasol 10ppm since brand new. My consump is good, performance is good, hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
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Re: To 10ppm or not?
When your car was still on the drawing board i doubt there was 10ppm and maybe not even 50ppm.casperjjordaan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:58 pm Hi Guys. I have been reading up on this topic, but I can't find a real answer.
I have a Polo ASZ PD 1.9TDI. I have thus far only used 50ppm in my car, and never 500ppm. My friend has a Hilux 3.0D4D and swears by Shell 500ppm. He reckons less ppm than 500 does not contain enough smearing. Now, I get that. But, my Ford Ranger (Company car) has been running solely on Sasol 10ppm since brand new. My consump is good, performance is good, hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
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I suppose you don't know that most of the fuel supplied at the rand comes from sasol anyway. Does not matter if you fill at other garages like caltex or engen or BP. the Base fuel is supplied by sasol anyway. So unless you drive to cape town or durban to fill you support sasol whether you think you are or not.
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Re: To 10ppm or not?
Two things:Tman21 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:25 amWhen your car was still on the drawing board i doubt there was 10ppm and maybe not even 50ppm.casperjjordaan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:58 pm Hi Guys. I have been reading up on this topic, but I can't find a real answer.
I have a Polo ASZ PD 1.9TDI. I have thus far only used 50ppm in my car, and never 500ppm. My friend has a Hilux 3.0D4D and swears by Shell 500ppm. He reckons less ppm than 500 does not contain enough smearing. Now, I get that. But, my Ford Ranger (Company car) has been running solely on Sasol 10ppm since brand new. My consump is good, performance is good, hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
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Whenever you fill up just remember: VOK sasol, anything else is fair game!
His car was on the drawing board in Europe, not Africa, so lower than 10ppm may have been available.
Sasol makes just about every litre of fuel up on the reef, so unless you are at the coast you are never vok'ing Sasol.
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Re: To 10ppm or not?
What does matter is that 50ppm is cheaper , this will be my reason.
They are busy phasing out 500ppm hence the need to push 10ppm , you'll one day notice 10ppm & 50ppm on the pumps.
the cleanness of the fuel/emissions matter the most and in turn helps for a longer life span of the engine and having petrol like oil service's intervals for a diesel.
They are busy phasing out 500ppm hence the need to push 10ppm , you'll one day notice 10ppm & 50ppm on the pumps.
the cleanness of the fuel/emissions matter the most and in turn helps for a longer life span of the engine and having petrol like oil service's intervals for a diesel.
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True that but was destined for our **** hole from day one. My 2019 2.0 Rok is Euro 3 so Ill let her sip on 500ppm if Id have to.Neuk wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 12:22 pmTwo things:Tman21 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:25 amWhen your car was still on the drawing board i doubt there was 10ppm and maybe not even 50ppm.casperjjordaan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:58 pm Hi Guys. I have been reading up on this topic, but I can't find a real answer.
I have a Polo ASZ PD 1.9TDI. I have thus far only used 50ppm in my car, and never 500ppm. My friend has a Hilux 3.0D4D and swears by Shell 500ppm. He reckons less ppm than 500 does not contain enough smearing. Now, I get that. But, my Ford Ranger (Company car) has been running solely on Sasol 10ppm since brand new. My consump is good, performance is good, hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
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Whenever you fill up just remember: VOK sasol, anything else is fair game!
His car was on the drawing board in Europe, not Africa, so lower than 10ppm may have been available.
Sasol makes just about every litre of fuel up on the reef, so unless you are at the coast you are never vok'ing Sasol.
I know the whole fuel debate, but staying away from their service stations as a principal.
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Re: To 10ppm or not?
The lower the sulpher content the better, Well for everything except lubrication. The refinement process used to reduce sulpher also reduces lubricating properties, but 10ppm vs 50ppm you are talking about a 0.001% vs a 0.005% sulpher content, I'm pretty sure it wont make much of a difference.casperjjordaan wrote: ↑Sun Mar 03, 2019 9:58 pm hence the Q, to 10ppm, or not to 10ppm? Which is better, or preferred for the PD engine?
When I had my sportline (2010-2014) it was common for guys in Europe who used low ppm diesel to add a bottle of 2 stroke oil every now and then to help lube the internals of the injectors.
Also, in your user manual it recommends fuel below 3000ppm, so your car will happily function with 500, 50 or 10
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I doubt you are doing anything other than hurting the fuel station owner but I understand the behavior if you have an axe to grind with Sasol.
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Re: To 10ppm or not?
The lower the sulphur, the better.
The sulphur in diesel pollutes the oil which increases sludging and increases wear on the engine.
To combat the decrease in lubricity of the lower sulphur diesel, the refineries include lubricity additives in the diesel. This article includes tests of forecourt diesel that shows the lubrication properties exceed the minimum required: https://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-o ... -study.php
It also outlines that it is probably a bad idea to add 2-stroke to your diesel.
The sulphur in diesel pollutes the oil which increases sludging and increases wear on the engine.
To combat the decrease in lubricity of the lower sulphur diesel, the refineries include lubricity additives in the diesel. This article includes tests of forecourt diesel that shows the lubrication properties exceed the minimum required: https://www.fuelexpert.co.za/2-stroke-o ... -study.php
It also outlines that it is probably a bad idea to add 2-stroke to your diesel.