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Hi,

This is my first post. Just signed up. Need help.

Found a 2000 TT. Engine blown. Body and all other mechanicals in perfect condition. What's the best replacement engine that will just slip in there with maybe a turbo or 2. I'm not a mechanic and my knowledge very limited in this area. Has anybody done one before? And what sort of costs am I looking at? Would want it to make at least 200 to 300 kw.

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Hi & Welcome to the forum :hug:

Is yours a 1.8T or the 3.2? Quattro?
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Hi ICE King,

Thanx alot.

I forgot to mention that. It's the 1.8T. Quattro.

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Depending on condition,i'd rebuilt that 20v
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Really wanted something bigger in there. But thanx anyway.
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Oh and the condition is pretty f#¢€d. Would be better to get second hand 1.8
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Those 1.8T 20V motors can be modded to make massive power.
How much power? How deep your pockets are is the deciding factor.

Here is a 300kw TT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqxG730rdrA
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I have a couple K. I wanted at least 250 to 300. Who the best guys to do something like this. I'm from NC
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Perfect base to start with , Here's a secret , The 1.8t can do 300Kw unopened

Your 1.8t can tune to +-230kw with stock turbo , slap a bigger turbo on(GT28 or bigger), tune and you good for +-300kw

The weakest part is the rods , will need to keep torque to +-400nm unless you install a set of rods.

Strongest variation of the 1.8t in stock form, locally is the BAM(165kw) engine , which came out in the TT , you might just have this motor in your TT :hurray:
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Car has been standing for 4years. Want to put engin in just to get it on the road again. And then when that's done want to do to it whatever it takes to get met to about 300. Want it to be reliable. Want it to be something I can put fuel in and drive to Capetown. Thanx for all your input I really appreciate. I'm not going to do any of this myself. Do you know of a place that can do this for me? I'm really happy hearing I can get 300 and more with the 1.8.
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ICE King wrote:Perfect base to start with , Here's a secret , The 1.8t can do 300Kw unopened

Your 1.8t can tune to +-230kw with stock turbo , slap a bigger turbo on(GT28 or bigger), tune and you good for +-300kw

The weakest part is the rods , will need to keep torque to +-400nm unless you install a set of rods.

Strongest variation of the 1.8t in stock form, locally is the BAM(165kw) engine , which came out in the TT , you might just have this motor in your TT :hurray:
What stock turbo will give 230kw?


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ZiF_k wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:31 am
ICE King wrote:Perfect base to start with , Here's a secret , The 1.8t can do 300Kw unopened

Your 1.8t can tune to +-230kw with stock turbo , slap a bigger turbo on(GT28 or bigger), tune and you good for +-300kw

The weakest part is the rods , will need to keep torque to +-400nm unless you install a set of rods.

Strongest variation of the 1.8t in stock form, locally is the BAM(165kw) engine , which came out in the TT , you might just have this motor in your TT :hurray:
What stock turbo will give 230kw?


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ICE King wrote:
ZiF_k wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:31 am
ICE King wrote:Perfect base to start with , Here's a secret , The 1.8t can do 300Kw unopened

Your 1.8t can tune to +-230kw with stock turbo , slap a bigger turbo on(GT28 or bigger), tune and you good for +-300kw

The weakest part is the rods , will need to keep torque to +-400nm unless you install a set of rods.

Strongest variation of the 1.8t in stock form, locally is the BAM(165kw) engine , which came out in the TT , you might just have this motor in your TT :hurray:
What stock turbo will give 230kw?


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ZiF_k wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 12:52 pm
ICE King wrote:
ZiF_k wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 11:31 am
ICE King wrote:Perfect base to start with , Here's a secret , The 1.8t can do 300Kw unopened

Your 1.8t can tune to +-230kw with stock turbo , slap a bigger turbo on(GT28 or bigger), tune and you good for +-300kw

The weakest part is the rods , will need to keep torque to +-400nm unless you install a set of rods.

Strongest variation of the 1.8t in stock form, locally is the BAM(165kw) engine , which came out in the TT , you might just have this motor in your TT :hurray:
What stock turbo will give 230kw?


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Nah BT is the way :hug: , won't have to worry about WMI ,octane etc.... to make such power.
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I would strip and check what is wrong with current motor and do a full rebuild / refresh on that motor. Same time replace rods with beefier rods, get a GT30 turbo and matched cast manifold, larger injectors, larger intercooler, single mass fly wheel turbo spec clutch setup to handle the added power, boost pipes and downpipe to match the new setup. After you have rebuild the motor contact Thanas here on the forum to assist with tuning and you will have your 300kw motor.

Do a price up on what needs to be replaced and / repaired on the current motor and weigh it up on the price of an import BAM code engine.

An import BAM code engine would set you back anything between 17500 and 35000 depending on condition and where you buy it from. These import engines comes with a 1 month guarantee and you are required to do a belt change (cambelt and tensioner pulley and ribbed belt replacement), full oil service, thermostat replacement and possibly a water pump replacement too. This will total up to roughly 4000 rand, then still you may need other odds and ends or a clutch plate etc. You are then already on 17500 + 4000 = 21500 low price or upper price limit 35000 + 4000 = 39000 for a replacement engine from importers leaving out all the other items that you may still need to get it 100% fit and working as it should (replacing cut or torn water hoses or other items not mentioned and found as you transfer the import motor across that you need to replace on current engine in any case when you refresh it).

Refreshed / repaired existing motor that is build stronger and is new condition as opposed to an import motor with an unknown history and possible mileage anything between 80000 and 100000km's on motor.

Do the price comparison first before you decide.
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Thank you. This was very helpfull
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PapaJo wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:21 pm I would strip and check what is wrong with current motor and do a full rebuild / refresh on that motor. Same time replace rods with beefier rods, get a GT30 turbo and matched cast manifold, larger injectors, larger intercooler, single mass fly wheel turbo spec clutch setup to handle the added power, boost pipes and downpipe to match the new setup. After you have rebuild the motor contact Thanas here on the forum to assist with tuning and you will have your 300kw motor.

Do a price up on what needs to be replaced and / repaired on the current motor and weigh it up on the price of an import BAM code engine.

An import BAM code engine would set you back anything between 17500 and 35000 depending on condition and where you buy it from. These import engines comes with a 1 month guarantee and you are required to do a belt change (cambelt and tensioner pulley and ribbed belt replacement), full oil service, thermostat replacement and possibly a water pump replacement too. This will total up to roughly 4000 rand, then still you may need other odds and ends or a clutch plate etc. You are then already on 17500 + 4000 = 21500 low price or upper price limit 35000 + 4000 = 39000 for a replacement engine from importers leaving out all the other items that you may still need to get it 100% fit and working as it should (replacing cut or torn water hoses or other items not mentioned and found as you transfer the import motor across that you need to replace on current engine in any case when you refresh it).

Refreshed / repaired existing motor that is build stronger and is new condition as opposed to an import motor with an unknown history and possible mileage anything between 80000 and 100000km's on motor.

Do the price comparison first before you decide.
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You guys have been really helpfull
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I agree with Jo's post.

Johan your aim is a strong, reliable car that can daily if need be.

To start, you have the perfect base for this project. Audi TT is awesome, then its Quattro, even better. 1.8T is very popular globally for tuning, aftermarket support is strong, and it's motor is already in pieces. Half the work is already done for you.

It would be a waste to get the car running just to pull it apart again when you start chasing power.

Second, dont rush. Take your time to reach your goal. The end result will be worth it. Making hasty decisions only cost time and money.

Do research. Talk to experts, get knowledgeable about your car and its engine.

To achieve your goal you will need to ask the right people the right questions, this is where all the homework comes in. It's not always easy to know what the right question is, or even the right person.

On that note, welcome. This is the place where some of those questions and people can be found.

Just to add, one of the threads that inspired my golf build was a 1.8T B6 A4 on a forum called Audizine. His motor was fully built and running on alcohol (Yanks love that stuff). It made 580HP odd iirc. It was later swapped for a 2.7T v6. Power is a drug and junkies crave it. The v6 was going to make 600HP with double the torque.

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That's the reason why I'm here. To get in touch with the right people. Don't want a car that leaves my beside the road. I would rather give up power for something reliable. Want to use it every day. But when I feel like it I want a beast to come alive.

And I agree with you. The tt the perfect car to do fun stuff with because of the Quatro.

Already know I'm going with the 1.8 because it was what was in there. And according to you guys thats one mean machine.

Just need the right guys to help me get it where I want. I have 90k for the motor and all the tunes. Just hope that will be enough.
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Would like to add a upgraded fuel pump and Coils(not crucially needed but the possibility is there) otherwise PapaJo's recipe is spot.

At 300kw they are still very much reliable and easy to use as a daily.- There's plenty examples around to confirm this

Things will get more expensive after 300kw though , Will need to fully build the bottom and do head work.
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I will stick to the 300 for now. Don't think I need more
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Johanr wrote: Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:06 am I will stick to the 300 for now. Don't think I need more
you get used to 300kw rather easilly...
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Hahaha I have heard that. But then I Wil do a new project.
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300kw with launch control tuned in , in a Audi TT Quattro , will be fun :drool:

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