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2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:08 pm
by Craig_za
Good day all,

I have inherited madams old 1.3 chico (bought her the new 1.6 tdi jetta) as a runaround vehicle. She is way cheaper to drive than my current vehicle - Alfa 156 2.0 TS.

Anyway, after being screwed a few times at her local maintenance dude for ridiculous prices on services, I decided to take over the TLC myself as I thought she had a relatively straight forward engine.

So far, I have sorted her idle, mixture and timing out, and she is running great. Fuel economy is much better. Only thing is that she is a bit flat on the higher mid end. I think this is normal on the 1.3 as she is still a carb unit. But either way, she is comming up for her 120K service - Got the Haynes service manual so I should be ok - I think. :fear:

I noticed this morning, that she as a diagnostic plug under the ashtray. You pull it out and there is this vag-com port. What on earth is this for? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I was under the impression that I could still work on this type of motor without the software. :eek:

Now I am a bit afraid to change anything as I don't know what this would disable.

Thanks in advance

Craig

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:15 pm
by MeanTdi
Hi there and welcome!
Craig_za wrote:..I noticed this morning, that she as a diagnostic plug under the ashtray. You pull it out and there is this vag-com port. What on earth is this for? Any ideas would be greatly appreciated as I was under the impression that I could still work on this type of motor without the software. :eek:
To program keys etc.

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:21 pm
by Craig_za
Thanks,

Is that all it is for? This car does not have an imobilizer installed. And I cant see that the key is anything but a standard cut key, iow - there doesn't seem to be a transponder or anything in the key?

So are you telling me I can still fiddle in the engine? :drool:

One other question, what mk number does this golf belong to? Is it the mk1?

Cheers

Craig

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:29 pm
by AlexTDi
Craig_za wrote:Thanks,

Is that all it is for? This car does not have an imobilizer installed. And I cant see that the key is anything but a standard cut key, iow - there doesn't seem to be a transponder or anything in the key?

So are you telling me I can still fiddle in the engine? :drool:
Yes and enjoy :lol:
Craig_za wrote:
One other question, what mk number does this golf belong to? Is it the mk1?

Cheers

Craig
No part of the Citi ERA

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:33 pm
by Craig_za
Shot 1.9,

I will be doing the timing belt and all those other goodies soon - about 1500K's to go. :fear:

I take it the Citi era is only South African, because I cannot find bugger all information about them in any other forums?

Cheers

Craig

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:41 pm
by AlexTDi
Yea just like the Vivo's but i stand to be corrected, Only our country over charge so much for cars that we need to remove just about every luxury part and create these "budget" cars :lol:

First time attempting the belt?? :fear:

Make sure you have the right tools and do alot of research as a timing belt installed wrong can cost a hell of a lot more then someone else's cheap labour.

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:42 pm
by AlexTDi
PS start a rides thread, take lots of pix and you'll have quite a bit of support.

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:49 pm
by Craig_za
Shot 1.9,

Will take some pics soon.

It will be my first time on a veedub golf - but have done a few Alfas and some older cars. So I think I should be ok - I hope.

I have been checking the forums out - to get good pictures of what the haynes manual doesn't show, and I have had the covers off a few times over weekends causing endless chaos with madam just to check, re-check and make sure of all the marks. So I should be ok, but will get my old man to supervise. It is cheaper to buy him a few beers than for me to replace the engine. :wink:

The one good thing is that this cow does not have points - that would have really had me broken.

Cheers

Craig

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:07 pm
by tamper_man
Craig_za wrote:there doesn't seem to be a transponder or anything in the key?
It's there. Separate the two plastic halves and point the metal part of the key away from you. Transponder is the small grey/black block on the left side of the key.

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Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:08 pm
by MeanTdi
tamper_man wrote:
Craig_za wrote:there doesn't seem to be a transponder or anything in the key?
It's there. Separate the two plastic halves and point the metal part of the key away from you. Transponder is the small grey/black block on the left side of the key.

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Correct.

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:11 pm
by 94CTi
Stupid question.I recall someone mentioning that the early Citi's with that diagnostic plug also have some TCI adjustments possible?
Timing?

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:14 pm
by Craig_za
Shot chaps,

I can see you people are going to get me into kak with the missus already.

But hey, she got the jetta - so now the golf is mine. :grin:

So this plug is only for programming a new key, it has nothing to do with engine control?

Cheers

Craig

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:22 pm
by araf69
If its carburatted motor then no. Where you from?

Re: 2004 VW Citi 1.3 Chico Diagnostic plug

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:48 am
by Craig_za
Shot araf69,

I am from Fourways Johannesburg.

Need to update my profile :oops:

Cheers

Craig