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Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:14 am
by zane.mk1
A year ago i bought a 1.6 carb motor for my citi.

When I first started her up she sounded lovely but after a week i heard the lifters make a noise.

I decided to replace the lifters with new Ajusa lifters.

But every now and then i still hear the hard lifters sound?
Especially when its hot.

I've done 15 000km with the motor and i'm using Castrol GTX motor oil.

I have no other problems regarding the motor. The noise is just irritating me.

Any help / advice would be appreciated.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:27 am
by Killerwatt
I've never heard of that brand of lifters before. You can swap to a set of INA lifters and that should solve your problem.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:37 am
by Yakuza Racer
Killerwatt wrote:I've never heard of that brand of lifters before. You can swap to a set of INA lifters and that should solve your problem.
ftw!

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:39 am
by panic-mechanic
And stop using catrol gtx.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 10:23 am
by pjjdp
panic-mechanic wrote:And stop using castrol gtx.

Best advice I have seen on this forum for a long time.
:hi:

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:02 am
by zane.mk1
I purchased the lifters from Masterparts.

Where can i purchase a set of INA LIFTERS?

@panic-mechanic, whats wrong with Castrol GTX? what do you recommend?

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:08 am
by Jetta2
INA lifter you can buy from Goldwagen.
Use Shell Helix HX5 (yellow can), rather than GTX.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:09 am
by Naku786
Yupp from Goldwagon, They sell for R 40.00 ea last time I checked.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:32 am
by zane.mk1
tx, will be sure to try the INA lifters out. by the way, i paid R570 for the set AJUSA Lifters.

i havent really exeperienced problems using Castrol.
but would like to know why i should avoid using castrol.

My car is due for a service this month, so i was planning on getting Castrol Magnetec which our VW Agents use when servicing vehicles.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:42 pm
by panic-mechanic
My own experiences with castrol GTX are sludge buildup and dirty engines inside. Had no issues with shell.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:07 pm
by Tdi jetta 4 ever
Jetta2 wrote:INA lifter you can buy from Goldwagen.
Use Shell Helix HX5 (yellow can), rather than GTX.
+1

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:13 pm
by zane.mk1
ok, tx for the info.

i'll be sure to get Shell oil & fit the ina lifters.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:15 pm
by yosh
Masterparts has INA lifters, get them...
+1billion on GTX

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:41 pm
by zane.mk1
Spoke to a salesman @ masterparts. Apparently the Ajusa lifters and the INA are of the same quality.
Its the Castrol that is making k@k cause of the sludge build up.

So i'm first gonna flush the engine, fill her up with shell helix and see how she sounds.

I'll then take it form there.

tx for all the info guys.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:55 pm
by pjjdp
If you had time, you could remove the lifters and clean them as well. Just to make sure there is no sludge in.
It will be noisy at first when you put it back, but it should quite down soon.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:40 am
by Gplay
Jetta2 wrote:INA lifter you can buy from Goldwagen.
Use Shell Helix HX5 (yellow can), rather than GTX.

talking about oil..... what is a good oil to use in my turbo motor???

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:22 pm
by gambit
Gplay wrote:
Jetta2 wrote:INA lifter you can buy from Goldwagen.
Use Shell Helix HX5 (yellow can), rather than GTX.

talking about oil..... what is a good oil to use in my turbo motor???
I used shell in my turbo mk2 and my current drag car, no issues.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:03 pm
by MhVW
zane.mk1 wrote:Spoke to a salesman @ masterparts. Apparently the Ajusa lifters and the INA are of the same quality.
They NOT the same quality, take everyone here's advise and just chance them.
zane.mk1 wrote:Its the Castrol that is making k@k cause of the sludge build up.
The sludge normally builds up in the sump.

Just chance the lifters to INA! :bang:

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:51 pm
by zane.mk1
ok, i'll then no longer waste anytime.

fitting the INA LIFTERS and shell helix.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 pm
by vdub caddy
zane.mk1 wrote:Spoke to a salesman @ masterparts. Apparently the Ajusa lifters and the INA are of the same quality.
Its the Castrol that is making k@k cause of the sludge build up.

So i'm first gonna flush the engine, fill her up with shell helix and see how she sounds.

I'll then take it form there.

tx for all the info guys.

I am sure a few guys here have commented before on flushing the engine and don't suggest it, just let the oil drain properly and then fill with Shell.

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:18 am
by Wit Ark
I also have ajusa lifters in my motor, very very noisy..... using delo 400 15W40 oil. Would eventually buy INA lifters, but untill then mine will have to do. A good friend once said a noisy lifter is a happy lifter! LOL

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 4:34 pm
by kyle12
zane thanks so much for posting this problem. i drive a 1.8 carb motor aswell, same problem. i never knew what the problem was but the noise wasnt permanently there,but it kept coming back when warm. i never really got round to posting something like this but thanks so much ! please let us/me know if it fixed the problem

Re: Hydraulic Lifters................

Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:20 am
by zane.mk1
kyle12 wrote:zane thanks so much for posting this problem. i drive a 1.8 carb motor aswell, same problem. i never knew what the problem was but the noise wasnt permanently there,but it kept coming back when warm. i never really got round to posting something like this but thanks so much ! please let us/me know if it fixed the problem
Will let you know after the coming weekend buddy :cool: